Tynan Sinks and Sable Yong — friends, beauty editors, award-winning fragrance writers (some of us), and scent fiends — are giving the world the podcast no one asked for. Smell Ya Later explores every imaginable angle at which we interact with the aromas and odors in our lives, the scents that have seared themselves into our memory, and scents that inform the way we envision our future. That includes everything from fine fragrances to candles to dish soap. For more info, check out our website ...
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Which night creams will make you look well-rested, is quitting coffee really worth the headache, can emptying your closet really bring you joy, and wtf is a gratitude practice, anyway? Co-hosts Doree Shafrir and Elise Hu explore these kinds of questions, with a big helping of humor and self-awareness. Together with weekly guests, they navigate what it means to care for ourselves as we get older — and hopefully wiser. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Episode 315: No One's Performing, Just Here to Chill with Sable Yong
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It’s the first Forever35 Live Taping in almost 5 years! Doree and Elise sat down with writer Sable Yong to reflect on the bonding experience of a Korean bathhouse, where to draw the line on procedures, and why a “yassified” look persists in the age of the internet. Taped in front of an audience at Village Well Books in Culver City. To leave a voice…
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Mini-Ep 409: Eyeshadow For Your Hair
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Elise fills in Doree about getting ghosted by her tennis coach before they hear from listeners about the benefit of a very attractive physical therapist, how to look confident and cute after a biopsy at the hairline, and whether California has no real water parks. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-039…
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Stéle Ya Later 🪽 [feat. Jake & Matt Belanger]
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You'll find NYC's newest and coolest fragrance boutique in South Williamsburg. For those who wander further from the beaten path of the neighborhood's main drag, at Stéle you can smell some of the most unique and hard-to-find fragrance brands you've only seen online. In this episode we speak with founders and shopkeeps, Jake & Matt Belanger about h…
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Episode 318: Don’t Take the Bait with Negin Farsad
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Doree and Elise discuss the bonding nature of sunscreen and an efficiently packed purse before inviting author and comedian Negin Farsad onto the show to discuss using hyphens to describe yourself, the importance of the sentiment of “everyone can be Serena Williams,” and the benefits of giving people the benefit of the doubt. To leave a voicemail o…
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Mini-Ep 408: Sleep-Deprived Alter Ego
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Doree and Elise chat about adjusting to the new school year schedules and hear from listeners about the (curiously abundant) seafaring content of our youth, cycling tips and tricks, and the delicious dinner recipes you need in your weeknight rotation. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can al…
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The Perfume You Can Smell Only When It's In Season [feat. April Gargiulo of Vintner's Daughter]
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Imagine only being able to make a perfume when the raw materials are in peak season. That's how April Gargiulo developed Understory, the singular perfume oil from her brand Vintner's Daughter. A year after its original launch, it's back again—round 2—with some slightly evolved aromatic tweaks. This is how a winemaker creates a perfume oil. [What we…
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Episode 317: Making Change Happen with Melissa Walker
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Doree and Elise bring on return guest Melissa Walker (Head of Giving Circles at The States Project) to discuss why you should care about state legislatures, which states The States Project is really focusing on this year (and why), the ~vibes~ in politics right now, and the amazing changes that Forever35 listeners have helped enact in the last few …
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Mini-Ep 407: Two Friends Who Like To Talk About Sunscreens
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Doree and Elise discover a sunscreen from yesteryear and hear from listeners about the perfect gift-with-purchase bags, the long-term effects of Yoga Toes, whatever happened to the real life “Dolphin Girls,” and a useful hack for keeping your Squishmallows under control. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-…
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Episode 316: Theme Parks as Self Care with Carlye Wisel
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Buckle up, because Doree and Elise speak to award-winning theme park journalist and travel expert Carlye Wisel about the best way to have the ultimate theme park experience (spoiler: it’s by yourself!), how to do amusement parks on the cheap, how her bachelorette party became her new career, and what notes she has for Disneyland and Walt Disney Wor…
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Mini-Ep 406: Costco Vacays and Sunscreen Data
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Doree and Elise are both back from their travels with stories to tell! Then, they hear from listeners about the perfect Notes app hack, sunscreens that can set you on fire, and a cushion compact available in the U.S. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35po…
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A friendly and chill "what we're smelling lately" chat, including some spookily familiar scents and some new scent discoveries found in the gift shop (or regular shops too). Things we discuss: NOAH is Sandy Liang for boys (??) Our new obsession with Clue Perfumery and Amphora Burberry Goddess now has an INTENSE flanker Le Labo's newest city-exclusi…
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Mini-Ep 405: Simple Is Good
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Doree and Elise hear from listeners about the Kamala-nomenon, dealing with dry skin postpartum, a powerful nighttime sleep suggestion, and you wrote to offer advice for the listener who’s starting new anti-anxiety meds. Come for listener questions, stay for the TJ’s and Costco recs! To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & E…
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Episode 314: What a Tangled Sociocultural Web We Weave with Tressie McMillan Cottom
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Doree and Elise talk to celebrated cultural critic, sociologist, and award-winning writer Tressie McMillan Cottom, who brilliantly deconstructs everything from Ozempic and Oprah to Bama Rush — and shows the interconnectedness of it all. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the po…
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Mini-Ep 404: The Body Can Be a Real Bitch Sometimes
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Doree and Elise commiserate about hurting body parts and answer listener questions about navigating a friend's divorce when the kids still get along, at-home beauty remedies, a brain game to put you to sleep, and a good book rec. Come to our live show on Sunday, August 4 at 4 p.m. at Village Well Books in Culver City, CA. Join us as we interview th…
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"brat" scents for when you want to party but are in the midst of an existential crisis
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This, as well as other hard-hitting listener questions, are included in this week's Q&A episode. Enjoy! We discuss: Sable's Die Hot With A Vengeance perfume launch event at Stèle. Why do They (Big Fragrance) keep trying to make perfume layering happen? Byredo 1996 is allegedly coming back. What fragrances belong in a museum? Perfume snobbery. The i…
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Episode 313: Makeup Tips and Tricks with Rachel Goodwin
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Doree and Elise discuss the serums of the summer before inviting celebrity makeup artist Rachel Goodwin to chat about the best eyeshadow palettes and concealer out there right now, the surprising makeup lessons she learned from a mortician, the product every person over 40 should have in their bag, and the joy and beauty of the ritual surrounding d…
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Mini-Ep 403: To Bidet or Not to Bidet
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Doree and Elise hear from listeners about birthday letter traditions, kid-friendly sunburn remedies, American squeamishness around all things butts, and the marketing teams that have to take out ads to correct our pronunciation. Come to our live show on Sunday, August 4 at 4 p.m. at Village Well Books in Culver City, CA. Join us as we interview the…
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Episode 312: Learning to Be Brave with Laurel Braitman
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Doree and Elise invite Laurel Braitman (What Looks Like Bravery, and NYT bestseller Animal Madness: Inside Their Minds) to talk about why she compares friendship to oxygen, how a serendipitous radio episode changed her life, why she hates the question “how are you,” and why whales (and animals) are the key to her happiness. To leave a voicemail or …
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Mini-Ep 402: *Active Listening Noises*
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Doree and Elise hear from listeners about Elise’s active listening, a Forever35 book club, healing some scalp irritation or facial ingrown hairs, and the Costco breakfast recs that are dividing the internet. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gma…
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The Perfume Room Crossover Episode (feat. Emma Vernon)
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When two scent podcasts collide... we have fellow New Yorker and perfume podcaster Emma Vernon on this week's episode to talk about all the behind-the-mic business of making a podcast, the uniquely weird and fun idiosyncrasies of talking about smells online. It's a good hang chat! Follow Perfume Room @perfumeroompod and @emmavern And subscribe to t…
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Episode 311: Pop Culture Obsessions and Friendship Goals with Sam Sanders
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Doree and Elise invite journalist, Vibe Check host, and Elise’s long-time friend Sam Sanders to talk about using his self-competitiveness to gamify getting off his phone, figuring out that not all hills are worth dying on, the life-hack of “I feel” statements in all parts of his life, and his pop culture obsessions including what he thinks is overr…
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Mini-Ep 401: Free Bowl Lessons Learned
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Doree and Elise hear both sides of the free bowl experience, get a parent friend story with a surprising twist and a listener gives Elise a real blast from the past. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for lin…
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"Beauty is crazy" AKA The Die Hot With A Vengeance special interview episode
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Here's a one-off special, a minor departure, a host-turned-guest episode where Tynan interviews Sable about her debut essay collection Die Hot With A Vengeance. We cover the process of the book deal, the writing of the book, the convoluted nature of our current beauty culture and the precarious positions we find ourselves in for its pursuit, and (a…
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Episode 310: Off the Court with Caitlin Thompson
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Doree and Elise talk to Racquet Magazine founder Caitlin Thompson about the rise of tennis culture in the U.S., learning to reshape your identity when retiring from a sport, what success looks like for a brand centered on a niche physical media, and why your tennis racket probably doesn’t matter. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, r…
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Mini-Ep 400: Ask Your Friends For Help
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It’s our 400th(!) Mini-Episode and there’s never a dull moment. Elise eats a pesto lunch with basil from her own garden, and Doree digs deep into Elise’s social calendar. Plus, they hear from listeners about celebrating milestones for your children, building intentional communities, and how to deal with nuchal acne. To leave a voicemail or text for…
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Die Hot With A Vengeance: The Perfume! (feat. Joey Rosin)
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It's here: the perfume this podcast made (you'll find that out in the episode)! We have Sable's perfumer for Die Hot With A Vengeance eau de parfum, Joey Rosin of Hoax Parfum on the pod to talk about the whole process of making the perfume and being an independent perfumer. You can find the Die Hot With A Vengeance Eau De Parfum Here. Find more inf…
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Episode 309: How to Enjoy Yourself with Glynnis MacNicol
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Doree and Elise chat with return guest Glynnis MacNicol (author of I’m Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself) about learning to enjoy herself now instead of later, the nuances of deciding what fruit best embodies you on a Parisian dating app, and discovering at 46 that everything we’ve been taught about our bodies is a lie. Mentioned in this Episode To leave…
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Mini-Ep 399: I Dream of Dinner
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Doree and Elise hear from listeners about how to be parent friends when your kids aren't friends, normalizing staying inside during the summer as a form of self-care, and some great weeknight dinner recs. Come for the listener questions, and stick around for the Trader Joe’s segment! To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & …
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The Lube Episode (With GoodParts)
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Things we are talking about in this episode: How all of Miami smells like BR540. Morning Swood. Elorea's new fragrance collection: Timeless Legacy. The polarizing (between us) Frederic Malle X Acne scent. Lube. Lube. And more Lube — with Dave Shanfield of GoodParts Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on…
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