New Narratives with John Fullerton, Hunter Lovins, and Joon Yun

Denizen

In this episode Jenny sits down with three leaders in the regenerative movement: John Fullerton, Founder of the Capital Institute and champion of Regenerative Capitalism; Hunter Lovins, pioneer in the sustainability movement and author of Natural Capitalism; and Joon Yun, philanthropist and advocate of inclusive stakeholding. Each have been guests on various topics within the Denizen inquiry: Regenerative Capitalism, Natural Capitalism, and Inclusive Stakeholding. Each of them mentioned the importance of narratives shifts in their individual discussions, so this conversation brings them together to explore the new narratives that are needed for systems change.

John, Hunter and Joon are joined by four creatives within the Denizen community who share reflections from their work in various mediums. Recording artist Alex Ebert of Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros, visual artist Ben Von Wong, actor Ryan Caldwell, and filmmaker James Krisel. This is a wide ranging and provocative conversation intended to inspire new narratives for cultural change.

In this conversation Jenny, John, Hunter, Joon, Alex, Ben, Ryan and James discuss:

• Introductory framing [3:08]
• John's reflections on regenerative captialism's role in crafting new narratives [4:36]
• Hunter's reflections [11:00]
• Joon's reflections on storytelling and inclusive stakeholding [17:40]
• Inclusive stakeholding and regenerative capitalism principles: empowered participation [27:12]
• Reasons for hope wrt new narratives [31:49]
• Thoughts from Alex Ebert of Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros [35:43]
• Thoughts from visual artist Ben Von Wong [37:30]
• Reflections from Ryan Caldwell, actor; the importance of story [40:17]
• The necessity of vision [43:26]
• Reflections from James Krisel, filmmaker [46:14]
• Analogies with human aging [48:11]
• Overcoming tribalism [52:38]

Resources:

• "Regenerative Capitalism: How Universal Principles and Patterns Will Shape Our New Economy", John Fullerton
• Natural Capitalism: Creating the Next Industrial Revolution, Paul Hawken, Hunter Lovins, and Amory Lovins
• A Finer Future: Creating an Economy in Service to Life, Hunter Lovins, Anders Wijkman, Stewart Wallis, and John Fullerton‍
• Interdependent Capitalism: Redesigning the Social Contract through Inclusive Stakeholding, Joon Yun, Jeremy Yun, Conrad Yun‍
• Essays on Inclusive Stakeholding Joon Yu, Eric Yun, and Conrad Yun‍
• Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge, and the Teachings of Plants., Robin Wall Kimmerer
• Thomas Berry‍
• Grunch of Giants, Buckminster Fuller
• Donella Meadows
• Neuromancer, William Gibson
• Alex Ebert
• Ben Von Wong‍
• The Stubborn Optimist's Guide, Center for Humane Technology's Your Undivided Attention episode with Christiana Figueres