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The Rule of Law: The Academy Speaks

International Academy of Trial Lawyers

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Welcome to the official podcast of the International Academy of Trial Lawyers. Each week, Academy President Joe Tucker sits down with some of the world’s foremost trial lawyers and champions of justice to explore the most pressing issues facing the legal profession and the Rule of Law.
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Rule of Law Albania is an independent and non-partisan platform that aims to promote the rule of law, good governance, human rights and democracy in Albania and beyond. The podcast is hosted by Albi Çela, a human right and rule of law advocate from Albania, who currently resides in Washington D.C.
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Independent courts, judges who will withstand political pressure and rule against the will of the government if the law demands it. It’s called the rule of law, and as long as you have it, you rarely notice it. If you don’t have it, you’ll know what you miss – but then it’s too late. We need to talk about the rule of law because in a growing number of EU member states, the rule of law is already severely damaged - and we will all feel the consequences. We need to talk about the rule of law a ...
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Welcome to the Rule of Law Podcast, a fearless space for exploring a myriad of topics. I'm Lawrin, your host, also known as Law, and I invite you to join me on a weekly journey of discovery. Together, we'll delve into a diverse range of subjects without reservation or hesitation. From personal anecdotes to societal issues, nothing is off-limits as we navigate the complexities of life. My aim is to share my own healing journey with you, offering insights and inspiration along the way. Let's c ...
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In the Season 2 finale, Joe Tucker and Kate Shaw, Professor of Law at UPenn Carey Law, confront the state of the Rule of Law in an era of selective prosecution, retaliation against critics, and concealment from the courts. They assess the Supreme Court’s response, measure the damage already done, and underscore the urgent role lawyers must play now…
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In this episode, Joe sits down with attorney and licensed psychotherapist Erica Grigg for a candid look at the strains of the legal profession, from long hours to traumatic cases to mounting political pressure. They make the case for mental wellness alongside ethics and effectiveness, and share practical ways attorneys can support colleagues and th…
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In part two, Joe concludes his conversation with Antoinette Collignon on the Rule of Law and how U.S. leadership is seen abroad. Collignon notes Europe’s growing concern with the United States: some fear its commitment to democracy is only lip service, while others are alarmed by signs of alignment with Russia. She stresses the need for unity, resp…
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In part one, Joe is joined by Antoinette Collignon, who offers a European perspective on democracy and the Rule of Law. She reflects on the European Court of Human Rights’ rulings in Ukraine and the Netherlands v. Russia and the downing of Flight MH17, marking an important victory for the families of those killed. Antoinette also shares her own fam…
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Joe sits down with lawyer and author Anne Bremner to examine how justice is shaped in an era of social media, 24/7 news, and viral narratives. Anne explains why jurors and the public often form opinions before trials begin, drawing on cases from Amanda Knox to Rebecca Zahau. She argues that while the public wants to be part of the conversation, law…
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In this episode, Joe sits down with former Senator Jon Tester—author, co-host of the podcast Grounded, and a working Montana farmer—to take stock of the Rule of Law today. They examine how Congress is failing both the nation and the law, and flag troubling shifts in U.S. alliances. Together they ask: Where are we now? The conversation explores why …
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In Part Four, Joe concludes his conversation with attorney Brad Edwards, who spent more than twenty years fighting to hold Jeffrey Epstein accountable while Epstein and his team worked tirelessly to cover up his crimes. Brad highlights how government agencies lied, violated the Crime Victims’ Rights Act, and enabled the cover-up to persist. He make…
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In Part Three, Joe is joined by attorneys Jack Scarola and Brad Edwards. They recount how Epstein’s decision to sue Brad proved a tactical error that turned the tables. Jack and Brad reflect on their shared battles in court, the resilience of the survivors, and what it takes to stand up against power, intimidation, and systematic cover-ups. They al…
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In Part Two, Joe continues his conversation with attorney Jack Scarola, who spent decades working to hold Jeffrey Epstein accountable. They examine Epstein’s legal tactics, the arrogance that convinced him he was above the law, and the ways he manipulated the courts to intimidate others. Scarola reflects on his representation of Brad Edwards and ho…
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Joe sits down with attorney Jack Scarola, who spent decades working to hold Jeffrey Epstein accountable, to discuss how the case masked secrecy as transparency—through intimidation tactics, a hidden “sweetheart deal,” and Justice Department cover-ups. Scarola argues true accountability requires releasing prosecution memos, deposition transcripts, a…
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Season 2 of The Rule of Law: The Academy Speaks kicks off with exclusive conversations with the lawyers who spent decades working to hold Jeffrey Epstein accountable. Host Joe Tucker explores the fight to expose Epstein and his accomplices—and the ongoing pursuit of justice for his victims. Subscribe now to get each new episode delivered straight t…
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In the final episode of season one, Joe sits down with Charla Aldous from Aldous Law in Dallas, Texas, for a powerful and personal conversation. They discuss her courage in the courtroom, the power of pro bono work, and the life experiences that inspire her to stand up for vulnerable clients—even when the odds are against her. For Charla, helping o…
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In this episode, Joe speaks with Kalpana Srinivasan about how being the daughter of immigrants shaped her path in the legal profession. She reflects on the role that transparency, opportunity, and trust played in her own progress. Kalpana shares how these values guide her in empowering young lawyers to take on meaningful responsibility early in the…
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This week, Joe sits down with Stan Garnett, Co-Founding Partner with Garnett, Powell, Maximon, Barlow & Farbes, to explore a provocative question: Is the U.S. Constitution truly democratic, or does it deepen the divisions in American life? Stan argues that while the Constitution is foundational, it often fuels partisanship rather than unity and com…
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This week, Joe sits down with Karen Burgess of Burgess Law in Austin, Texas, to discuss how disinformation is fueling the global Rule of Law crisis. Together, they examine the increasing influence of state actors in driving disinformation campaigns, the rise of deepfakes and AI-generated content, and how social media algorithms are accelerating the…
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WARNING: This episode contains sensitive content related to child sex trafficking and abuse. Some listeners may find this material distressing. In this week’s episode, Joe speaks with attorney Nadeem Bezar about the legal fight to hold enablers of child sex trafficking accountable. In just over a year, Nadeem’s team secured more than $100 million i…
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This week, Joe sits down with immigration attorney and advocate Kate Lincoln-Goldfinch. Kate is the owner and CEO of Lincoln-Goldfinch Law and a founding board member of VECINA, one of the Academy’s valued partners. Kate brings two decades of frontline experience to the conversation, from representing a detained infant in a prison-issued onesie to …
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In this week's episode, Joe is joined by Roman Silberfeld from Robins Kaplan LLP for a conversation about the power of partnership in the pursuit of justice. Together, they examine Powers v. McDonough, a landmark case in which Roman and his firm, working with Public Counsel and Inner City Law Center, successfully challenged the Department of Vetera…
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In this week’s episode, Joe sits down with Yale legal scholar, journalist, and bestselling author Emily Bazelon. Together, they dive into the legal turmoil unfolding across the country—from attacks on higher education and healthcare to threats to due process and the evolving role of the Supreme Court. Bazelon offers sharp analysis, historical conte…
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Academy President Joe Tucker sits down with Randy Smith, Director of the Journalists in Exile Program and Board President of the Alfred Friendly Press Partners. They discuss why journalism is essential to holding power accountable and protecting democracy — and how Academy Fellows, through their teaching in the Journalists in Exile Program, are hel…
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This week, Joe sits down with Ted Schmidt, the President of the Arizona State Bar, to discuss how small acts—such as speaking in a classroom or organizing a local event—can spark broader civic engagement. Ted shares what he has done to help lawyers promote the Rule of Law without stepping into political controversy.…
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This week, Joe and "Texas Legal Legend" Dicky Grigg discuss the abuse of immigrants and asylum seekers in the U.S. under the current administration. Grigg reflects on his pro bono work defending people who were wrongfully detained in Guantanamo Bay, the damage those actions inflicted on due process and America’s global reputation, and the striking …
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In this episode, Joe sits down with Craig Peters, Partner at Altair Law in San Francisco, to revisit the powerful Dean’s Address he delivered at the International Academy of Trial Lawyers 2025 Annual Meeting. The conversation centers on optimism and its essential role in preserving democracy. Craig shares stories of three mentors who, despite overw…
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This week, Joe and Senator Doug Jones speak about the future of American politics and the role that courage and common ground must play in preserving our democracy. As a former U.S. Senator and longtime attorney, Jones offers a unique perspective on gerrymandering, the inner workings of government, and the critical importance of an independent judi…
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In this episode, Joe speaks with Doris Cheng of Walkup, Melodia, Kelly & Schoenberger in San Francisco about the growing backlash against diversity, equity, and inclusion. For both Doris and Joe, it’s a deeply personal and professional issue. Together, they unpack what’s fueling the pushback—and how we can make sense of the chaos while holding onto…
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Michael Haggard of The Haggard Law Firm and Josh Koskoff of Koskoff Koskoff & Bieder, PC, join Joe Tucker for part two of a powerful conversation on the epidemic of gun violence sweeping the nation. Recently named one of TIME’s 100 Most Influential People of 2025, Koskoff shares how his groundbreaking legal strategy secured a $73 million settlement…
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In part one of this episode, Joe speaks with Michael Haggard, Managing Partner of The Haggard Law Firm, about his work representing victims and families affected by gun violence in the U.S. They discuss the heartbreak of this ongoing crisis, and what hope the law can offer to those working to rebuild their lives.…
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In this episode, Joe connects with Brian Gover and Paul Le Vay of Stockwoods LLP in Toronto to discuss rising U.S.-Canada tensions. They explore cross-border solidarity, the role of legal leadership, and how lawyers on both sides can defend shared principles when politics put pressure on the Rule of Law.…
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In this premiere episode of The Rule of Law: The Academy Speaks, Academy President Joe Tucker sits down with renowned trial lawyers Cliff Edwards and Kathy Patrick to explore what happens when lawyers themselves become targets—by political leaders, powerful interests, and institutional forces. Together, they reflect on courage, duty, and the vital …
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Magna Carta was sealed by King John at Runnymede on June 15, 1215. However, its survival was in doubt. It served two purposes, a peace treaty and the grant of liberties to the rebel barons and the English People. If the peace did not hold, Magna Carta would disappear from the pages of history. Even while the King was negotiating the final language …
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The cornerstone of the Rule of Law and Modern Democracy is Magna Carta. It was a peace treaty between King John and the barons who rebelled against his dictatorship. The treaty was agreed to in June 1215 in Runnymede, a 150 acre grassy field on the south bank of the River Thames between Windsor and Staines. Nearly all of the nobility of England wer…
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England was on the razor's edge between war and peace. The barons planned to assassinate King John. He had raped one of their wives and sexually assaulted one of their daughters. He had murdered another baron's wife and his son, by starving them to death in Windsor Castle. However, news of the assassination plot leaked out. The king was warned by t…
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Magna Carta, the Great Charter of English Liberties, is the foundation upon which the Rule of Law is built. The story of its creation is more surprising and far more complex than is commonly known. It extends beyond King John, the most despised king in English history and the Barons who were compelled to wage war against him. The epic also includes…
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Magna Carta, the English Charter of Liberties, didn't happen overnight. It was the culmination of a series of events, piled one on top of the other, over the preceding16 years. This episode is the beginning of that story. It is about the fall of the Angevin Empire. Henry II of England had amassed a vast empire in western Europe. It extended from th…
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In the 12th Century, the Rule of Law advanced when the Digest of the Roman Emperor Justinian was discovered in Italy 500 years after its creation. Young men from across Europe travelled to Bologna to study Roman law, including an Englishman named Thomas Becket. Roman law would become the foundation of the laws of many European nations. However, Eng…
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In this week's episode, I invite you to embark on a profound journey of healing and resilience. Through the lens of my personal narrative, we delve deep into the intricate complexities of grief, resilience, and the profound impact of life-altering events such as the loss of fertility and near-death experiences. Grief, a universal human experience, …
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In this compelling episode of the Rule of Law Podcast, Lawrin bravely opens up about her journey to mental health recovery. Through candid storytelling, she shares the pivotal events that led her to make the courageous decision to seek help by checking herself into a mental health facility after enduring silent suffering for too long. Listeners are…
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Episode 2 is the story of the impact of the Norman Invasion on the Rule of Law in England. Saxon control of England was obliterated in 1066 by the Norman Conquest. The Normans' ancestors were Vikings. Technically, the liegemen of the King of France, in reality their military power in Northern France was enormous. They helped created the Capetian Dy…
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