Nicknames, Hill Dying, Traveling Suits, and Heckling

GOAT ZOOM ROOM

Kaitlin Free and Andy Villanueva are joined by Barry "Sniper" Spears and Chuck Simon of the "Going in Circles" podcast.

0:00 - 3:30: We go right into nicknames. Figuring out what nickname Chuck should have.

3:35 - 19:29: Derby crop legitimacy, are fillies better than the colts right now? Will Baffert have a horse fit before the Derby

19:30 - 22:30: Somehow the old guys bring up Chris Lincoln's "Racehorse Digest" replay show from around the country pre-simulcast days. DRF used peanut oil for their print. (Check how we came up with that nugget.)

22:31 - 39.59: Congratulating Barry on his Tampa Bay Downs Derby gig. How hard it would be to not curse on the air which leads to Jimmy Toner, Arena Football League, and Lingerie Football League being brought up. Chuck also shares how he's not envious that Kaitlin and Barry are analysts because they have to give opinions on every race. Finally, Barry shares how he's better evolved as a horseplayer.

40:00 - 1:09:00: Bring up the Past the Wire article, which leads to Andy admitting to not having listened to Going in Circles this week. Chuck sounded disappointed. We realize this isn't the hill to die on and ask hard-hitting questions of where Corniche and Commandperformance are currently?

1:10:00 - 1:30:00: Happy for D. Wayne Lukas opportunity with Secret Oath. Chuck and Andy discuss how Lukas's shedrow was at the time and who was on his barn roster as a "Who's who" of current trainers. We find out about Lukas's traveling suit truck. Chuck starts a story on Mountain Cat.......Still waiting on the finish.

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Chuck "no nickname" Simon @cannonshell

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Andy Villanueva @avillanueva3rd