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After Hours: Conversations for Music Educators is a music education podcast from Amro Music Stores, Inc. Our After Hours podcast host, Nick Averwater, facilitates engaging conversations each week with band directors, private music teachers, general music educators, orchestra directors, and other music industry professionals just like you. Each podcast guest shares practical advice on things like classroom management in your band program, placing beginners on instruments, band and orchestra r ...
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Listen as Christian, a young composer, and Kara, a young choir director, interview music educators in order to learn the "ins and outs" of their success in the classroom. This is the perfect podcast for beginning and veteran music educators alike, as well as composers and music students. It's time to go beyond the measure! Brought to you by Christian Fortner Music.
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This week Nick Averwater talks with David Davis, Music Teacher at Park Spanish Immersion Elementary School in St. Louis Park, MN, a city of around 50,000 people just west of Minneapolis. David was named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of Music Educators. In this episode we'll learn about the people and experiences that inspired him to become a …
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This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. Emily Williams Burch, Professor of Music at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, GA. Dr. Burch was also named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of Music Educators. In this episode we'll learn about the work she has done with the American Choral Directors Association to provid…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Emily Williams Burch, Professor of Music at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, GA. Dr. Burch was also named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of Music Educators. In this episode we'll learn about the book that she co-authored with Alex Gartner called The Business Of Choir, A Choral Leader's Gui…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Timothy Sexton, Associate Director of Bands for Tarpon Springs Leadership Conservatory For The Arts in Tarpon Springs, Florida, a city of around 25,000 located 25 miles northwest of Tampa. Dr. Sexton has also recently been named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of Music Educators. In this episode we'll lea…
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We've all heard that there is much more beneath the "tip of the iceberg" when it comes to conducting, but what does that actually look like? And what best practices can we do as conductors to grow as music educators? This week, Dr. Andrew Kim of the New York Youth Symphony and Conducting Institute joins us to share his story of how he became a cond…
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Being in a profession like music education comes with a lot of scrutiny. This can cause a lot of stress on us and make us afraid to be truly vulnerable - and not just with other people, but with ourselves. It’s important to take time to look in the mirror and ask ourselves “What am I struggling with in the classroom?” and “What steps can I take to …
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This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Johanna Kitchell, Orchestra Director for Riverside Intermediate and Junior High Schools in Fishers, Indiana, a northeastern suburb of Indianapolis with a population of nearly 100,000. Johanna is also a conductor with the Indianapolis Youth Orchestra, and has been named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 U…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Johanna Kitchell, Orchestra Director for Riverside Intermediate and Junior High Schools in Fishers, IN, a northeastern suburb of Indianapolis with a population of around 95,000. Johanna is also a conductor with the Indianapolis Youth Orchestra, and has been named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 Under 40 List of Music Educa…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Matthew Arau, Chair of the Music Education department at Lawrence University in Appleton, Wisconsin. Dr. Arau was our guest on two episodes in April 2023, but we realized that there was much more to talk about that we couldn't fit into those two episodes, so we've invited him back to share his thoughts about …
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This week, Brandon Farren, head choral director at Canyon High School, joins us to discuss how directors can maintain a healthy tone in their ensemble - both from a musical perspective and from the students' perspective. SHOW NOTES: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1468XcuhWT5jiQCHHpJdW78hMZn0Nn5r6/view?usp=sharing Connect with the Canyon High Schoo…
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In this episode, Grammy Award-winner Stephen Cox joins us to discuss how the current systems in the music education field will make an impact on the future of our profession. What are we doing now that is working? What's not working? And what changes need to happen soon before more turn away from the profession? SHOW NOTES: https://drive.google.com…
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This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. Bruce Faske, Associate Professor of Trombone at Arkansas State University in Jonesboro. In the last episode Dr. Faske shared ideas for band directors who are non-trombonists, but are teaching the instrument at the beginning and middle school levels. This week we'll have a similar conversa…
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This is the second part of our interview with Dr. Frank Eychaner, Director of Choral Activities at the University of Central Arkansas. Frank discusses ways that music educators can continue to renew themselves and take the right steps toward staying mentally and physically healthy. SHOW NOTES: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YN5d9JsMyLhfWAAqFzbLts…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Bruce Faske, Associate Professor of Trombone at Arkansas State University in Jonesboro. He has taught at the University since 2014, and in this episode we'll learn more about the path that brought him to Northeast Arkansas, and he'll also share some helpful tips for band directors at the middle school level w…
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Enjoy the first part of our interview with Dr. Frank Eychaner, who is the Director of Choral Activities at the University of Central Arkansas. In this episode, Frank talks about how music directors can have mental and emotional sustainability in our jobs - even after years and years of experience (and therefore, exhaustion). This is a great episode…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Franklin Willis, Community Impact Director for the Country Music Association Foundation. He has been with the foundation since August of 2022 after 13 years as a music educator. In this episode we'll learn more about his early influences as an educator, the foundation's Music Teachers of Excellence Program, and s…
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This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with author & educator Scott Lang about the fourth version of the State Of Music Education Survey. The survey started in 2020 as a result of the pandemic, and version 5 expected later in 2023. Version 4 is broken up into six categories. Last week Nick and Scott talked about three of those categori…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with author & educator Scott Lang. We last spoke with Scott in December 2020 about the State of Music Education survey, which started as a result of the pandemic. The survey is now in its fourth version, with version 5 expected later in 2023, so we thought it was time to check back in to see what has changed in the mu…
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This week, we welcome Jason Jones to the podcast, who is the band director at Central High School in San Angelo, Texas. Jason has much experience in both large and small music programs, and he tells us about what sort of differences you can find between the two - and whether that should make a difference in how you teach. SHOW NOTES: https://drive.…
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In the second part of our interview with the New Canaan High School Choir Director, Sarah Gleason provides simple ways that student leaders can help influence others to be all-on-board with the purpose of success for an ensemble. SHOW NOTES: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WngpME66TLeCUqdxHdoRWwNJv_j8o1Xw/view?usp=sharing Connect with the NCHS Cho…
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This week Nick Averwater hosts a Back-to-School conversation focusing on maximizing the start of the school year. Our three guests include Lindsey Williams from Paducah Middle School in Paducah, KY, Lauren Duncan from Lafayette Middle School and High School in Oxford, MS, and Evan Burton from Page Middle School in Franklin, TN. Our conversation was…
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This is the first part of our two-part interview with Sarah Gleason, Choral Director of the New Canaan High School Choir. In this episode, Sarah stresses the importance of community in an ensemble as the foundation of success in all other areas and how giving up control to the students in certain aspects of the class can help encourage them to grow…
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This week Nick Averwater hosts a Back-to-School webinar focusing on recruitment and retention. Our guests include Kaitlin Roll from Annie Camp Junior High School in Jonesboro, AR, Vanessa Cobb from Montgomery Central High School in Cunningham, TN, and Dr. Mike Yopp from Freed-Hardeman University in Henderson, TN. The conversation was recorded Augus…
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Dr. Jeff Goolsby, Director of Choral Activities at Abilene Christian University, joins us to discuss how he came to be a choir director and how he takes many different avenues to create a unique concert experience. We no longer live in an age where being expected to sit down, “shut up,” and listen to live music is appealing to the average audience …
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This week, Nick Averwater talks with Cody Price, Orchestra Director at Arlington Middle School in Arlington, TN, a town of around 15,000 people located just northeast of Memphis. In this episode we'll learn more about Cody's approach to teaching, which is based on the idea of teaching life skills through music. She'll also share some tips for getti…
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This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Glen Schneider, an instructor at VanderCook College of Music in Chicago, and creator of musicmastery.band, a personalized online teaching resource designed for students for whom private lessons aren't an option. Glen has over 20 years of experience as a band director, and in the last episode …
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Glen Schneider, an instructor at VanderCook College of Music in Chicago, and creator of musicmastery.band, a personalized online teaching resource designed for students for whom private lessons aren't an option. Our conversation was recorded in January 2023. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part 1.…
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This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. James Weaver, Director of Performing Arts and Sports for the National Federation of State High School Associations, an organization based in Indianapolis that serves more than 19,000 high schools. In this episode we'll learn about how the NFHS works to advocate for arts education at the n…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. James Weaver, a former band director, and Director of Performing Arts and Sports for the National Federation of State High School Associations, an organization based in Indianapolis that serves more than 19,000 high schools. In this episode we'll learn about NFHS's leadership role in the International Coaliti…
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This week, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. Mike Yopp, Director of Bands at Middleton High School in Middleton, TN, a town of just a few hundred people in the southwestern part of the state. The high school serves Middleton and several surrounding communities as part of the Hardeman County School District. In March of 2023, a few …
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This week, Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Mike Yopp, Director of Bands at Middleton High School in Middleton, TN. Middleton is a town of just a few hundred people in the southwestern part of the state, but the high school serves several surrounding communities as part of the Hardeman County School District. In March of 2023, a few weeks after this c…
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This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. Matthew Arau, Chair of the Music Education Department at Lawrence University in Appleton, Wisconsin, and author of the book, Upbeat! Mindset, Mindfulness and Leadership in Music Education And Beyond, pubished by GIA Publications. In the last episode we looked at the first part of the book…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Matthew Arau, Chair of the Music Education Department at Lawrence University in Appleton, Wisconsin, and author of the book, Upbeat! Mindset, Mindfulness and Leadership in Music Education And Beyond, pubished by GIA Publications. Our conversation was recorded January 24, 2023. It's broken up in to two episode…
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This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Adrian Gordon, Orchestra Director at Providence Day School in Charlotte, NC, and author of the new book, Note To Self: A Music Director's Guide For Transitioning to a New School and Building a Thriving Music Program. In this episode Adrian talks about the importance of mental wellness and a b…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Adrian Gordon, a longtime music educator and author of the book, Note To Self: A Music Director's Guide For Transitioning to a New School and Building a Thriving Music Program. Adrian is also Orchestra Director at Providence Day School in Charlotte, NC. In this episode he'll tell us about his early experiences th…
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This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Michael Wells, Principal at Clinton Junior High School in Clinton Arkansas, a town of around 2,600 located 70 miles north of Little Rock. For many years Michael was a band director in several small school districts, and in this episode we'll get his perspective on how band programs can achiev…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Michael Wells, Principal at Clinton Junior High School in Clinton Arkansas, a town of around 2,600 located 70 miles north of Little Rock. Michael is a former band director, and in this episode we'll learn more about the similarities and differences between the two jobs, and also how music educators can build and …
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This week, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Jared Cassedy, K-12 Performing Arts Coordinator for Lexington Public Schools in Lexington, Massachusetts, a town of around 35,000 people located ten miles northwest of Boston. Jared is the 2015 recipient of the GRAMMY Award in Music Education, and in 2022 he was one of 30 teachers who receiv…
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This week, we have Dr. Troy Robertson, head choral director at Tarleton State University, join us on the show! Troy has worked with many different choirs across the country and tells us what he believes are the most important foundations of any ensemble: Community, Excellence, and Beauty. Follow the Tarleton Choir Program: Website: https://www.tarl…
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This week, Nick Averwater talks with Jared Cassedy, K-12 Performing Arts Coordinator for Lexington Public Schools in Lexington, Massachusetts, a town of around 35,000 people located ten miles northwest of Boston. Jared is in his 20th year as a music educator, and in this episode he talks about how he sees music education as an important component i…
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In this week's episode, we have the privilege of talking to Miguel Harth-Bedoya, conductor of the Baylor University Symphony Orchestra and Director of Orchestral Studies. With many years of experience conducting orchestras all around the world, Miguel tells us about what the ultimate goal of a conductor should be, and his methods on preparing score…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Kristy White, District Fine Arts Coordinator for the Jackson-Madison County School System in West Tennessee. The district serves around 13,000 students in 22 schools. In this episode, we'll learn more about Kristy's early inspirations that led her to music education, and we'll also get practical tips for establis…
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This week, Nick Averwater talks with Chris Vitale, Director of Bands at Westfield High School in Westfield, NJ, a town of around 30,000 people located a half hour from New York City. Chris was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators, and in this conversation he talks about the importance of creating a positive environm…
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This week, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Wes Lowe, Director of Instrumental Arts at The King's Academy in West Palm Beach, Florida. Wes grew up as a student at the school, and joined the faculty in 2019. Wes was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators, and directs bands at the elementary, middle school…
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This week, we sit down with composer Luke McMillan, who is very well-known for creating accessible marching shows for small school band programs. Luke tells us how he came to become a full-time composer and the strategies he uses to be a resource to band directors and other music educators across the country. Connect with Luke: Website: https://luk…
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This week Nick Averwater talks with Wes Lowe, Director of Instrumental Arts at The King's Academy in West Palm Beach, Florida. Wes was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators, and in this episode, he talks about what it's like to direct ensembles at the elementary, middle school, and high school levels, and how he has …
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Darcy Radcliffe, former orchestra director at Abilene and Cooper High Schools, created a new type of string orchestra ensemble called Revolution Strings. After experiencing many incredible successes with the group, she has joined us on this week's episode to give insight as to how she created it, what steps she took to generate interest, and how ot…
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This week, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Cody Newman, Director of Bands at Forney High School in Forney, TX, a town located around 20 miles east of Dallas. Cody was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators. In this episode we'll learn about two talented musicians in the school's marching band with physi…
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For music educators, the constant task of having to observe, evaluate, and improve is imperative for having a successful experience for students. However, this habit, paired with the overwhelming amount of tasks needed to be done each week can lead to huge amounts of stress. In this episode, Dr. Jon Kraemer, Head Band Director at Abilene High Schoo…
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This week, Nick Averwater talks with Cody Newman, Director of Bands at Forney High School in Forney, TX, a town of around 15,000 located 20 miles east of Dallas. Cody was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators. In this episode he'll tell us about his early days as a music educator, and we'll also hear about the band p…
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