Hosted by Allan Wille and Lauren Thibodeau, the Metric Stack podcast is the place to hear stories from founders, leaders, marketers, and more as they share how they succeed with data. Whether you’re struggling with data, reluctant to take the leap or maybe you’re a seasoned expert with years of experience, you’ll hear stories from people like you who have used data to grow and scale their business.
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If you are trying to figure out how to navigate the tricky tightrope of parenting while you have questions, doubts and wonderings about your spiritual journey, this podcast is for you. It doesn't matter if your kids are smalls, middles, or bigs. We will explore what and how we are deconstructing from churchianity, harmful belief systems, and diving deep into the ways we can work this out in parenthood. We will also work through ideas for reconstructing a space for our families to thrive unde ...
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The Future of Healthcare, with Duncan Weatherston
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In this episode of the Metric Stack Podcast - a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of healthcare and information technology - hosts Allan Wille and Lauren Thibodeau sit down with Duncan Weatherston, CEO of Smile Digital Health, a health data platform. Duncan talks about his company’s mission to transform global healthcare through innov…
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Reclaiming Internal Authority - Esther Joy Goetz
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We tend to look for answers outside ourselves. From books. Church. From friends or family. Even from society. We are called deeper, to sink down inside ourselves, where what we need is intertwined with what the Divine has to offer us. The place where we can trust and rest and then go and do. (Esther Goetz) Our guest this week is our very own Esther…
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Giving Up God - Sarah Henn Hayward
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“We are meaning-making machines. Chaos is uncomfortable, and thinking that everything that happens to us is due to random chance feels cold and impersonal. The brain seeks out patterns and order when they are not necessarily present.” Sarah Henn Hayward Our guest this week is Sarah Henn Hayward. Sarah is a mom of two, an author and our first self-p…
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Back to First Principles, with James Neufeld
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In this episode of the Metric Stack podcast, James Neufeld, CEO of Samdesk, digs into the critical role metrics play in communication between company leadership and board members, particularly post-Series A and B funding rounds. James talks about the universality of metrics as a language for investors, who often lack deep domain expertise and rely …
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It's Not Complicated - Malynda Hale
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Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate. - Malynda Hale Malynda Hale, mom, activist, singer, author and actress, is our guest this week. Malynda uses her voice through her music and social media presence as an educating activist to effect change within social justice, female empowerment, LGBTQ+ rights, the Black Lives Matter movement…
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Love Yourself - Amber Schultz
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The Church needs to be called out and take responsibility for the damage it has done to people. The survivors should be heard. So no, I don't always talk about the good. Because until the darkness is exposed, and more people are removed from power that absolutely should not be in it, I will not be quiet. - Amber Schultz Amber Schultz, founder of Fu…
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Deconstructing Your Faith Without Losing Yourself - Angela J. Herrington
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Deconstruction invites us to become really honest about what we believe, why we hold those beliefs sacred, how they influence the way we relate to our creator, and who is actually served by our beliefs. If we trust the process enough to lower our walls and honestly engage with our questions, deconstruction promises to reveal undiscovered bias, limi…
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Walking Out of & Into Spiritual Rooms - Emily P. Freeman
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The question we need to ask is this one: Am I being pushed by fear or led by love? (Emily P. Freeman) We are absolutely thrilled to have Emily P. Freeman join us on the podcast this week. Emily is a New York Times best-selling author, a mom to three, a spiritual director and podcast hostess. Her most important work is to help create soul space and …
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Finding My Voice Again - Leslie Nease
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I want to be a voice for the invisibles. (Leslie Nease) What do a Survivor contestant, deconstructing mama of four bigs, former Christian radio broadcaster, life and faith transitions coach, author and newly-minted podcast hostess have in common? They are all named Leslie Nease, our podcast guest this week. Leslie is quick-witted, well-spoken and p…
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Deconstructing Spanking - Matt Shantz
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*trigger warning* “My passion is to have a kinder and gentler world for our little people in faith spaces.” (Matt Shantz) Meet Matt Shantz, husband, dad, social worker in child and adolescent mental health, and spiritual mentor. Matt is our podcast guest this week and we are so grateful to have had one of the most complicated, difficult and needed …
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Essentially Good & Worthy of Love - Stephanie Stalvey
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I’m trying to be in alignment with what I understand what the true principles of love to actually be. (Stephanie Stalvey) The passionate and kind Stephanie Stalvey is our guest this week on the podcast. Stephanie is a deconstructing mama of one, high school art teacher, and painter writer and comic book artist extraordinaire. She loves music and an…
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You Will Always Belong - Matthew Paul Turner
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“God is like a fort, strong and secure with walls that are mighty and safe. Inside, there are hidden places to hold you when you’re scared or need a quiet place to rest.” What is God Like (Matthew Paul Turner & Rachel Held Evans) The spunky and amazing Matthew Paul Turner is our guest this week on the podcast. Matthew is a dad of three, New York Ti…
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Parenting After Deconstruction - Sarah Schwartzendruber
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“You aren't going to mess up your kids' theology." (Sarah Swartzendruber) The brilliant Sarah Swartzendruber is our guest this week on the podcast. Sarah is a mama, pastor, kid's faith curriculum creator (Zippee) and cohort leader for Parenting After Deconstruction. Most of the parents who reach out to her know what they don't want to teach their k…
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Diet Culture & Extreme Religion - Trisha Wilkerson
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“Self-discovery is the goal. Self-compassion is the vibe." (Trisha Wilkerson) We start off Season Five with Trisha Wilkerson as our guest this week on the podcast. And it's really good! Trisha is a deconstructing mama, author, former pastor's wife turned certified Nutrition Coach. She works with individuals and groups, guiding a behavioral change p…
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Tech Company Valuations, with Ed Bryant
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In this podcast interview, Allan Wille and Lauren Thibodeau discuss tech company valuations with Ed Bryant, President and CEO of Sampford Advisors. Ed defines valuation as the price a buyer will pay for your business either by purchasing it outright or as part of a merger and acquisition transaction. He suggests the only way to learn the true value…
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Optimizing LTV to CAC at Unbounce, with Alex Nazarevich
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Today's guest is Alex Nazarevich, Vice President of Growth at Unbounce. We dive into the marketing strategies and principles behind the company's success. Alex’s team uses the Lifetime Value to Customer Acquisition Cost (LTV to CAC) ratio, not just as a marketing metric, but as a unifying force across departments. This approach underscores the impo…
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The Struggle - Lizz Enns Petters and Esther Joy Goetz
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“Chronic trauma can overwhelm our internal coping resources. Trauma disrupts the same system that regulates our body’s stress response causing a hyperactive fight-or-flight reaction. It’s not just all in our head. It’s in our bodies too. (Brittany Moses) Guess what??? The guests on our podcasts this week are...drum roll please... us. We are closing…
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I Might Be Wrong - Zack Hunt
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“Admitting we could be wrong about the things we are most convinced of, that are so fundamental to who we are, is painful and becoming someone new is scary.” (an excerpt from Godbreathed, Zack Hunt) Zack Hunt (sometimes known as Zaack Hunt around the internet, a deconstructing dad, former pastor, prolific author and BBQ magician extraordinaire, is …
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What is Customer Return on Investment? with Greg Boyd, Uvaro
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Today's guest is Greg Boyd. He's the VP of Customer Excellence at Uvaro, a company that helps people transition into careers in tech sales through subscription based education and networking programs. In his role, Greg is responsible for the end-to-end revenue generation and retention strategy for the business. Today, we're going to chat with Greg …
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My Love, God is Everywhere - The Reverend Mamas
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“My love, God is here when you choose goodness and are living from your heart. When you follow the path of love, God is with you from the start. And God is there when you mess up, if you make a choice that isn’t best. It doesn’t mean you’re bad; it just means you’re human-like all the rest.” (an excerpt from My Love, God is Everywhere) Victoria Rob…
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Deconstructing Hell - Chad Bahl
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"I would hope never to feel so confident in my theology as not to be willing to correct a wrong view once presented with compelling evidence." Chad Bahl (Deconstructing Hell) Chad Bahl is our podcast guest this week. Chad is a theologian, step-dad and author. Chad is also a kind, humble, deep, brilliant soul who is on a personal mission to seek the…
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Liminal Space & Winter's Gifts - Kaitlin Curtice
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“In a time when we love to keep ourselves separated from one another with our ideologies and beliefs, liminality asks how we exist in those in between spaces.” - Kaitlin Curtis (Living Resistance) Kaitlin Curtice is our podcast guest this week. Kaitlin is an award-winning author, poet-storyteller, and public speaker. As an enrolled citizen of the P…
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Stories and Solidarity - Dr. Drew Hart
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“Following Jesus out of the entanglements of Christian supremacy and white supremacy are deep convictions. We believe God desires so much more from the Church than the frequently empty religiosity and hypocrisy we have become adjusted to.” --Dr. Drew Hart Dr. Drew Hart, black activist, racial reconciliation expert, biblical studies professor and fa…
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Supercharging Humans with Johan Baltzar, Steep
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In this interview, Allan Wille, CEO at Klipfolio, sat down with Johan Baltzar, co-founder and CEO of Steep. Klipfolio and Steep share the same vision. They believe in a new generation of analytics products that enable business users to work with centrally-defined metrics in a self-serve environment. Their conversation explored the ever-evolving lan…
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Deconstructing Grief - Dr. Glenn Siepert
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This Week on the Podcast: Dr. Glenn Siepert, a deconstructing dad, former pastor, author and podcast host of the What If Project, is our guest this week.Glenn creates a safe space for people to explore this idea: What if there are ways of thinking about God and faith that are different than what our traditions have handed us? . On this episode, we …
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From Constrictive to Expansive - Kyndall Rae Rothaus
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Kyndall Rae Rothaus, a preacher, poet, feminist theologian, spiritual director, and preaching coach, is our guest this week. She is the author of Thy Queendom Come: Breaking Free from Patriarchy to Save Your Soul (2021) and Preacher Breath (2015). She is the co-founder and Executive Director of Nevertheless She Preached, a national, ecumenical prea…
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Your Body is a Revolution - Tara Teng
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Tara Teng, an Embodiment Coach who works in the intersections of spirituality and sexuality, is our guest this week. Tara helps people find their way back to their bodies, overcome shame, heal trauma and dismantle purity culture in a way that is in alignment with their values and beliefs so that they can build a healthy, sexual ethic and thrive in …
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Evolve to Survive - Ericka Graham
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Ericka Graham, freelance pastor and Bible-nerd extraordinaire, mama to two littles, recovering 12-stepper, and podcast hostess, is our guest this week. Ericka has a passion for reframing the Bible to be a source of life and healing and spreading that word far and wide. On this episode, we dive deep into the hard spaces of OCD manifested in scrupulo…
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Is God Violent? - Dr. Eric Seibert
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Dr. Eric Seibert, Old Testament scholar and professor, dad of tweens and teens, prolific author and Minecraft guru, (yes, you read that right) is our guest this week. Eric is passionate against churchce sanctioned violenebecause he is troubled by how much violence Christians condone and sometimes participate in. I do NOT believe this is what God in…
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Reverse ETL, BI, AI, and more with Brian Kotlyar, Hightouch
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Allan Wille, CEO at Klipfolio, sat down with Brian Kotlyar, VP of Marketing & Growth at Hightouch, a reverse ETL solution that makes data manipulation, extraction, and moving smooth, easy, and fun for data engineers. Their conversation explored the potential of reverse ETL, the pressing challenges of modern business intelligence (BI), and the excit…
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Rewilding Our Soul - Mary DeJong
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We continue Season Four with Mary DeJong. Mary lives in Seattle, Washington's Rainier Valley in Columbia City, at Hedgewood, a home that for over a decade has hosted community connection through the reclamation and restoration of a neighborhood forest. Mary finds herself an eco-theologian and urban naturalist who delves into why place matters, the …
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Safe Sex - Dr. Laura E. Anderson
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We are so excited to launch Season Four with Dr. Laura E. Anderson, the author of that wisdom. Dr. Laura is a psychotherapist, trauma resolution coach and consultant, writer and educator specializing in complex and developmental trauma, dynamics of power and control and religious trauma. She views herself as still a work in progress. She believes h…
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Embodied Faith - Annalise Hume
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Annalise Hume, is our guest on our perfectly-timed summer bonus episode. Annalise is a passionate, creative, down-to-earth mover who loves listening and asking questions to help others recognize the movement of God in their life. After growing up in Boise, Idaho, she earned a BFA in Dance, spending a year touring with a performing-arts organization…
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What is Gross Revenue Retention? with You Mon Tsang, ChurnZero
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Today we’re joined by You Mon Tsang, a 4 time founder and CEO experienced with both enterprise and consumer applications. You Mon is currently founder and CEO at ChurnZero, a company dedicated to helping subscription businesses battle churn. It’s appropriate then that today’s metric is Gross Revenue Retention, a metric that gets to the heart of chu…
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Reparenting Ourselves - Bekah McNeel
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Bekah McNeel is our final guest of Season Three. Bekah is a native of San Antonio, Texas, where she has been a reporter for nine years. Her work has appeared in print with Christianity Today, The San Antonio Current, and the Public Justice Review, as well as online with the Christian Science Monitor, Sojourners, the Texas Tribune, the Hechinger Rep…
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The Space Between - Matt Mattson
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Matt Mattson, the "starter" of both the BETWEEN community and Today I Pray For You project on Instagram and Facebook, is our guest this week. Matt dreams of creating a global relational religious movement. Matt believes “church” (and faith exploration) can and should happen in our conversations with others. He's passionate that the space between us…
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What is Willingness to Pay? with Dan Balcauski, Product Tranquility
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Today we’re joined by Dan Balcauski, founder of Product Tranquility, and an expert on B2B SaaS pricing and packaging. Prior to founding Product Tranquility, he did a lot of things, but the coolest we think was his solo round-the-world expedition to 21 countries. Today's topic: Willingness to Pay.Door Klipfolio Inc.
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What About the Why? - Liz Mall
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Liz Mall, apologist (fancy word for someone who uses "argument" and "reason" to make a point that something is or isn't true and she has her masters in this area of expertise), deconstructing mama of three littles and podcast hostess, is our guest this week. She and her cohost provide incredible resources for both faith deconstruction and reconstru…
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Tear Everything Down - Melissa Neeb
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Melissa Neeb, author, deconstructing mama of two teens, avid photographer, and podcast hostess is our guest this week. Her mantra is "love big, live kind" and there could be nothing truer about Melissa. She's highly committed to loving without strings, inclusive of everyone who walks into her home or her life and kindness is her main squeeze. When …
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Two Trees - Mike Morrell
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Mike Morrell, coauthor of the Divine Dance with Richard Rohr (a pretty big deal), dad of two, an opti-mystic (which he likes to call himself), and Dudeist Priest (look it up here), is our guest this week. He's a contemplative-in-process, seeking a more grounded experience of God, life, himself and the world, not because of grand mystical aspiration…
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What is Return on Ad Spend? with Zack Wenthe, Treasure Data
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Today’s guest is Zack Wenthe, Sr Product Marketing Manager at Treasure Data. Zack’s worn many hats over the years, all tied together through the power of storytelling to drive revenue. This week's metric: Return on Ad Spend.Door Klipfolio Inc.
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Purity Culture Recovery - Dr. Camden Morgante
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Dr. Camden Morgante, psychologist, coach, writer, and fellow mama is passionate about purity culture recovery, egalitarianism and reconstruction. She currently lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband and her two beautiful children. We know what is wrong with purity culture—now we need to know how to heal. As a licensed psychologist specializing in …
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The Gift of the Unexpected - Jillian Benfield
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Jillian Benfield, author, mom of three, former TV news anchor, and fierce advocate for access and inclusion of all types, is our guest this week. When she and her husband Andy were just 27 years old, they unexpectedly found out their son would be born with Down syndrome. Originally, devastated, they later, through months and years of learning and u…
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What About Doubt? - Kat Wordsworth
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Kat Wordsworth, author, mom of two, avid swimmer, and experienced doubter, is our guest this week. Although she is constantly living with doubt and unpacking both the harm and the healing it has brought to her life, she is taking slow steps on her own path of faith. Our conversation with Kat, one of most gentle souls we've had the privilege of inte…
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What is reply rate? with Michael Barber, Marketing Strategist
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Today we’re joined by marketing strategist Michael Barber, recognized by Adobe/Marketo as one of the top 50 marketers in the world. Having worn both in-house and agency hats throughout his career, today, you’ll find him working with brands as varied as MeUndies, Johnson & Johnson, Aptean, and Ithica College. This week's metric: Reply Rate…
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Parenting Deconstructed - Jason Elam
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Jason Elam, grateful husband, author, proud dad of four amazing kids, host of the Messy Spirituality Podcast, and former church pastor, is our guest this week. Although he is deconstructing from toxic religion, he is still enamored by Jesus. Our time with Jason was refreshing and empowering, especially in the area of deconstructing and parenting. S…
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Is God a Safe Grown-Up? - Meredith Miller
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Meredith Miller, mom, children's pastor and soon-to-be author of a legit book coming out in August titled Woven: Nurturing a Faith Your Kid Doesn't Have to Heal From, is with us this week. Meredith has over 20 years experience in children’s ministry and curriculum. In 2019 she and her husband Curtis started a small church on Zoom that wants to live…
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Stay Out of the Way - Sarah Bessey
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Sarah Bessey, mom, best-selling author of dozens of words and books, podcast host herself and co-creator of the Evolving Summit is with us this week. Sarah was born and raised in the prairies and foothills of western Canada. Now living in Calgary, Alberta, Canada (on the traditional territories of the people of the Treaty 7 region in southern Alber…
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I am Enough - Jonathan Puddle
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Jonathan Puddle, dad of four, children's pastor and author, is with us this week. Jonathan was born in New Zealand and now resides in Guelph, Ontario with his wife Maija and their three kids. He love books, music, movies, dark beer, good food, and long walks on the beach. Jonathan feels passionately about living freely and loving powerfully. He bel…
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What is Lead Velocity Rate? with Corey Haines, SwipeWell
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We’re joined today by Corey Haines, Co-founder at SwipeWell, Founder of Swipe Files, and former Head of Growth at Baremetrics. Corey is a marketer, entrepreneur, podcaster, and investor on a mission to help people with exceptional products, services, and content get the attention they deserve. Today's metric: Lead Velocity Rate.…
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