Our first guest at Black & White Podden is Chief Storyteller and Creative Director Mary Lee Copeland! Mary Lee shares her stories with us and this episode is full of captivating stories about the countries and cultures we are familiar with combined with lots of laughter!Door Black & White Podden

In this episode we talk about the concept of being "transracial" and the controversy about Rachel Dolezal. Is there really such a thing as being transracial?Door Black & White Podden