A Rock-Climbing Navy SEAL Talks Ibogaine, Meditation Tactics, Parenting, Purpose & More: The Nick Norris Podcast.


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No trip to San Diego would be complete without interviewing at least one Navy SEAL, which is exactly what I got up to on a recent trip to San Diego.

Nick Norris (@nick_norris1981) is a graduate of both the United States Naval Academy and Basic Underwater Demolition / SEAL (BUD/S) Class 247. Upon completion of SEAL training in 2004, Nick assumed progressively higher positions of leadership within Naval Special Warfare. His deployed roles included combat advisor to Iraqi and Afghan military units, Cross Functional Team Leader, and Ground Force Commander during combat operation in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Nick was most recently assigned to Naval Special Warfare Basic Training Command — SEAL Qualification Training (SQT) as Officer in Charge prior to transitioning off Active Duty. Originally from Chicago, Nick received his Bachelor in Science from the United States Naval Academy in 2003 and his Masters of Science in Real Estate from The University of San Diego in 2013. He is the Executive Director of the C4 Foundation, which provides support and resources through science-based programs to active duty Navy SEALs and their families and is a Board Member of Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions, a non profit focused on ending the veteran suicide epidemic via resources, research, and advocacy related to psychedelic assisted therapy. Nick is also the Co-Founder and CEO of Protekt Products, a wellness company that is committed to positively impacting customer health via both personal care products and nutritional supplements. Both Protekt and the C4 Foundation value the power of time spent in the outdoors and the positive impact it has on overall well-being. During this discussion, you'll discover: -Nick's history with the Navy SEALs...7:15 -Developing a mindset to overcome uncertainty and the unknown...11:00 -The most important quality of a SEAL leader in Nick's view...14:37 -Ibogaine used as treatment for PTSD...21:45 -How Nick has treated neural inflammation and PTSD...27:15
  • Nick struggled with shame associated with PTSD (was reluctant to open up on Ferriss' podcast)
  • SEALs are great at "compartmentalizing"; great for their job, not so much in civilian life
  • Felt "flat" after leaving the SEALs
  • Initially approached it from an endocrine standpoint
  • Docs labeled it as a clinical depression
  • Transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS)
  • Eventually led to Ibogaine on the recommendation (and social proof) of fellow SEALs
  • Approach Ibogaine with much caution
  • Hot/cold contrast therapy
  • Morozko Forge (use code BENFORGE to save $150)
-Dealing with unhealthy habits Nick took from the military to civilian life...43:30
  • Compartmentalization
  • Fear of judgment; you're either "in" or "out" as a SEAL
  • Overcoming "messiah" complex
  • Relate love for our children with the love God has for us
  • Unconditional love from a greater power
-Nick's approach to sleep in and out of the military...49:50 -Nick's fitness regimen post-military...56:00
  • Bouldering keeps him outdoors
  • Ambulating under load (walking for extended period of time with weight)
-Why drinking water is not the best way to hydrate...1:00:30
  • Protekt Products
  • "Keep it simple" is the mantra for the brand
  • Book on hydration - Quench by Dana Cohen (drinking water is inefficient for hydrating)
  • Consume foods that are naturally plenteous in water (not dehydrated variants)
  • What's in the water and water content of the food you eat is the most important factor
  • Exercise and a good meal in the afternoon and evening often contradict conventional wisdom
-Why Nick feels like he's living on borrowed time...1:09:00
  • Nearly drowned while cliff jumping on the Big Island of Hawai'i
  • Belief in eternal life as a panacea to FOMO
  • Heaven by Randy Alcorn
-Life advice Nick shares with his children...1:14:00 -And much more! Resources from this episode:

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- Books:

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