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The Radical Bureaucrat

Abram Guerra and Sam Rosaldo

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Bureaucracy is that strangely modern form of government where lots of folks at their desk (french “bureau”) follow rules that they might not necessarily understand, and thus reinforce a system that they typically don’t like. Bureaucrats rule without really having much power–or without realizing how much power they have… A few of these bureaucrats, however, work to change their institutions so that they are more human, more perfect, and more just. This is a podcast devoted to exploring their ...
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Sam and Abram talk about their inability to articulate, the role of art, and they make room for some other voices as we unpack 200 days of atrocities in Palestine. Here are the other voices:Steven Stills and Buffalo Springfield, creators of the musical theme for our episode, "For What it's Worth"Amy Goodman, Anchor on Democracy NowTlaleng Mofokeng,…
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We begin a four part series about breaking silence without damaging relationships and striving to create productive dialogue about current events (like the occupation of Palestine). This episode focuses on the core values we try to sustain while creating these conversations: Humility, Community, and Justice.…
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We talk about the historic transition happening at the very top of the largest public school system in the nation. Chancellor Carranza has been a controversial figure at a pivotal moment in the history of NYC, and Sadye Campoamor and Zakiyah Ansari help us to make sense of this moment.Door Abram Guerra and Sam Rosaldo
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Sam and Abram make space to talk about some of the loss that we are all facing, from the death of dear loved ones, to the more trivial losses of work, momentum, or just routine. What does it look like to intentionally dig in on an emotion that we pretty much avoid unless we absolutely have to?Door Abram Guerra and Sam Rosaldo
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We have a sprawling conversation with Dan Honig, who helps us understand what's happening in West Africa and at his temporary Comfy COVID Country Cottage in Madison, Virginia. What does it take to not only make space for bureaucrats to want to rock the boat for the sake of the people, but to also reform and reimagine institution that keep the boat …
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We hear from Tassika Lloyd, who shares with us some of the ways her heart is heavy reckoning with (and calling people to reckon with) the ways that they are modeling things right now that are teaching our kids what it means to cope in a crisis. Takissa blew us away with her visionary call for collectivism in this critical chapter of human history.…
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We hear from Seth Hanlon, a veteran wonk and bureaucrat in the seat of the Federal Government. We discuss the challenges of working from home, the 'all hands on deck' environment in DC right now, and what our elected representatives from both parties are coalescing on in terms of economic recovery programming.…
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We chat with educator, artist, and instructional leader Genevieve DeBose about making time for collective and self care, the social costs of isolation and physical distancing (socially we are still practicing solidarity and love!), and how schools and workplaces are important sources of belonging for students AND workers (AND managers AND leaders).…
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Sam and Abram chat with Toni Smith-Thompson, who is working from her NYC apartment as a Community Organizer for the NY Civil Liberties Union (NY State branch of the ACLU). The lockdown won't stop the movement, because we move from a place of purpose. There will be change, mistakes, losses, and grief (which we must take time to process), but there i…
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For the last episode of the season, Sam and Abram invited some friends to watch and discuss Brazil, a surreal film that takes on themes of bureaucracy and alienation. Sam and Abram are joined by Patrick G. Williamson, who works for the NYC Department of Education and produces the podcast 3 Educated Brothas, and Toni Smith-Thompson, who is an organi…
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In this episode, Sam and Abram chat with Paul Forbes while he drives one of his Expanded Success Initiative students to college. The Expanded Success Initiative, which Paul runs, is a New York City Department of Education program that works with Black and Latino boys in high schools to make sure they graduate ready for college and career. Paul’s ap…
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"The Radical Bureaucrat: Love"When a co-worker cried after a tense phone conversation, Sam started thinking about accountability and human relationships within bureaucracy. Inspired by this incident and by the closeness they’ve built while working on The Radical Bureaucrat, Abram and Sam spend this episode exploring the intersection of love with th…
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The Radical Bureaucrat: Noliwe RooksAt the beginning of her most recent book, Dr. Noliwe Rooks shares a conversation she had over and over with her white, affluent students at Princeton. They called education “the civil rights issue of our time,” and seemed eager and committed to eradicating educational inequity. Rooks quickly noticed that for all …
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“Is there any way to rock the boat without falling out of it?,” is the central question of Debra Meyerson’s article “Radical Change, the Quiet Way,” which Sam and Abram spend this episode discussing.Meyerson’s article resonates because it addresses those “tempered radicals” who work to steer institutions toward justice from the middle – meaning wit…
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In today’s episode, Sam and Abram chat with Vinny Schiraldi, who oversaw radical changes running Juvenile Corrective Services in Washington, DC. Listen to Vinny explain how, guided by his approach of “acting incrementally while dreaming boldly,” he vastly cut down on institutionalization, abuse, and corruption. The story includes a steady stream of…
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What can a viral video of a teacher ripping up an elementary schooler’s book tell us about government regulation and management? In this inaugural recording, Sam and Abram try to unpack some of the arguments and assumptions in Elizabeth Green’s January 2018 article in The Atlantic: “The Charter School Crusader” about Eva Moskowitz and the school sy…
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Michelle Alexander, author of The New Jim Crow, described a scenario in which a person rescues a baby drowning in a river--then another one, then another. How many babies would you have to rescue before walking upstream to address the root cause? How do you continue rescuing babies downstream while you walk upstream?Fleshing out this and other meta…
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