The Inclusion 1st Podcast is creating a safe space for people to ask their most important questions on antiracism. Our mission is to demystify the practice of antiracism through the experience of questions and stories which we hope will encourage antiracist learning, growth, and action. We believe that it is the actions of individuals that help to push this movement forward. And to support these changemakers on their journey, we’ll answer listener-submitted questions in each episode. Tune in ...
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EP 78: Building bridges through anti-racism work and openly talking about race with Grace Yco
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Grace Yco, a former cancer researcher turned life science digital and content marketer and passionate DEI advocate. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in 2022. In this episode, we explore: How to build bridges between people through anti-rac…
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EP 77: The calling to do what’s right and using your unique talents with Veronica Demingas
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in 2022. In this episode, we explore: What being an activist looks like in 2022 The experience of creating a raw and direct presentation on race Digging into the unique change that Veronica and her friend V…
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EP 76: How I can call out racism in a way that's honest but won't make people defensive? | Community Question with Aidoo Osei
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: When I see or hear something that is racist, I'm always worried about using the "R" word for fear that it will put people on the defensive. Any advice on how I can call out racism in a way that's honest but won't make people defensive? You can find more information about Aidoo usin…
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EP 75: Microaggressions and creating more inclusive environments | Community Question
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: Can you talk about microaggressions and how we can change our thinking to create more inclusive environments? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here. Ready to dive in further? Check out all the…
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EP 74: How do we frame the anti-racist topic in a way that's aspirational and hopeful? | Community Question
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: How do we frame the anti-racist topic in a way that's aspirational and hopeful? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here. Ready to dive in further? Check out all the places you can find us below:…
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EP 73: Family stories of activism and being an inspiration to your kids to do good in the world with Aidoo Osei
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Aidoo Osei, VP of Product Strategy at Global Payments Inc. Based in the Atlanta area, he is a proud dad of three and a board member of the local non-profit, Caring for Others, Inc. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in 2022. In this episode,…
In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: Who gets to do anti-racism work? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here. Ready to dive in further? Check out all the places you can find us below: Top 5 Most Asked Questions On Anti-Racism Ask …
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EP 71: How can I champion anti-racism if I'm always worried about being racist by accident? | Community Question
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: What if I make some faux pas? Does that disqualify me? I'm such a newbie. How can I champion anti-racism if I'm always worried about being racist by accident? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question …
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EP 70: Having difficult conversations in the workplace and taking the training wheels off talk with R.M. Michaële Antoine
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In today’s episode, we are talking to R.M. Michaële Antoine, the Creator and Founder of Curios, which curates experiences to foster curiosity bravery, and intentionality through leadership, communication, consulting, workshops and training. As a DEI practitioner, her goal is to take the training wheels off talk. Come join us for this real, authenti…
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: What's the difference between equity and equality? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here. Ready to dive in further? Check out all the places you can find us below: Top 5 Most Asked Questions O…
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EP 68: How do I get started being an ally? | Community Question with Rebecca Wiggins
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: I want to be an ally but I don't know where to start, other than standing up when I see something glaringly wrong. How do I get started? You can find more information about Rebecca using the links below: Rebecca’s Instagram Rebecca’s LinkedIn Stephen Wiggins Art Instagram Do you ha…
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EP 67: Kitchen table activism, raising interracial children, and staying humble through the journey with Rebecca Wiggins
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Rebecca Wiggins, a kitchen table activist who comes from a long line of kitchen table activism (we dive into what this means in the episode). This activist spirit has taken her to homeless shelters, youth mentoring programs, and even inspired her doctoral research. Come join us for this real, authentic, and hon…
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EP 66: Becoming an angel investor, understanding the power of voting, and launching inclusion groups in the workplace with Janet Carson
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Janet Carson, an extremely accomplished and humble person who focuses on making an impact in the community by serving on the boards of community-based organizations and investing personal resources with numerous startup companies. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it look…
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EP 65: Relationships as the foundation to change with Cara McMahon
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Cara McMahon, who has been a social justice advocate in Catholic education for 20 years as well as an anti-racist speaker and consultant. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in 2022. In this episode, we answer questions like: - What does it m…
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EP 64: What's the right thing to say? Black or African American? | Community Question with Kevin Askew
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions with our guest host, Kevin Askew: What's the right thing to say? Black or African American? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here. . . . Ready to dive in further? Check out all the places you c…
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EP 63: Talking to your kids about racism and activism with Kevin Askew
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Kevin Askew who is a devoted husband, father, and son as well as an online radio station owner and adventurous life learner who is eager to bring STEAM to young, inquisitive minds. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in 2022. In this episode,…
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: How can I share my experience as a person of color? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here. . . . Ready to dive in further? Check out all the places you can find us below: Top 5 Most Asked Ques…
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: How can I talk to my Black friends about everything going on? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here. . . . Ready to dive in further? Check out all the places you can find us below: Top 5 Most …
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: I work for a non-profit conservation organization that partners with government organizations and other non-profit volunteer groups. What are the best practices for inclusion for all? How can we make our work events, outreach, etc., safe, fun, and appealing to all people specifical…
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EP 59: Question Throwback: Top questions & answers from prior guests of the Inclusion 1st Podcast - Part Three
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In today’s episode, we are bringing back some of our favorite questions and answers from our previous guests Amy Villaseñor, Kyle Moss, and Erin Rocchio. We answer the questions: What is the biggest lesson that you learned about anti-racism, activism, and using your voice? What keeps you inspired in the moments when things get tough as you do anti-…
In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: What is being colorblind? Can't we all just be colorblind? Why do we have to think about and talk about race? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here. . . . Ready to dive in further? Check out a…
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EP 57: Question Throwback Part Two: Top questions & answers from prior guests of the Inclusion 1st Podcast
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In today’s episode, we are bringing back some of our favorite questions and answers from our previous guests Howard Wright, Korey Sewell, and Justin Castelli. We answer the questions: For people who take the step to do research and end up in a crazy rabbit hole and think that the information they find is the truth, how can people find actual, real …
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: One of my back friends challenged that African-American is a white supremacy term. I am British, Irish, Cherokee-American but I have never been profiled that way. Is it an offensive term? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st P…
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EP 55: Question Throwback Part One: Top questions & answers from prior guests of the Inclusion 1st Podcast
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In today’s episode, we are bringing back some of our favorite questions and answers from our previous guests Sarah Cooper, Rivka Bent, and Tina Dryer. We answer the questions: I don't march. What other ways can I be an activist? What does activism look like in your world? How have you stepped into the fray? What is one of the most important things …
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EP 54: How do I start the conversation with my BIPOC friends and colleagues? | Community Question
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: I want to be an ally but don’t know where to start other than standing up when I see something glaringly wrong. How do I start the conversation with my BIPOC friends and colleagues? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast…
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EP 53: Bridging the innovation divide with Kurling Robinson
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Kurling Robinson is a co-founder, a musician, and a startup visionary with over 25 years of experience in software development and entrepreneurship. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in 2022. In this episode, we answer questions like: >What…
In this solo episode takeover with Jessica Obeng, we are answering the listener-submitted question: How do you explain privilege? More specifically, how do you explain white privilege? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here. Ready to dive in further? Check out …
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EP 51: Taking action as an anti-racist with Bernie Cox
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Bernie Cox a queer, non-binary writer, educator, and all-around continuous learner. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in 2022. In this episode, we answer questions like: >What does it mean to be an activist? >How do you think the discussion…
In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: Intersectional is a new word to me. Let’s talk about what it is and how I can understand it to serve as a better ally. Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here. . . . Ready to dive in further? Ch…
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EP 49: Creating diverse spaces for entrepreneurs and startups with Alex Waters
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Alex Waters, the Director of Economic Development at the Jacobs Center for Neighborhood Innovation who is responsible for providing diverse entrepreneurs with support and access to resources that help grow businesses and jobs in the San Diego region. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversatio…
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: What should we be aware of from the book White Fragility and the criticism it has received? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here. . . . Ready to dive in further? Check out all the places you …
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EP 47: Why not? Digging into company culture, leadership, and D&I with Jessica Obeng
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Jessica Obeng, a go-getter from Los Angeles who has a background in event marketing and program management. Devoted to building relationships, she is a planning committee member for Hub International’s black employee resource group as well as a committee member for Hub San Diego’s diversity, equity, and inclusi…
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EP 46: How can I stand up for BIPOC in environments that are mostly white? | Community Question
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: As a white person, how can I speak up for BIPOC’s in spaces that are almost entirely white and the BIPOC’s don’t always feel safe speaking up? My company employs almost no black people and there are none in my department. I have asked HR to seek out BIPOC as job candidates, but I’m…
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EP 45: Cultivating human connection and empathy as an activist with Lea Nepomuceno
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Lea Nepomuceno, a student activist who runs the organization Youth for Juvenile Justice Reform and the host of the Evidence for Change podcast. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in 2022. In this episode, we answer questions like: >What does…
In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: Racism permeates nearly every sector of our society. Undo or transform? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here to be featured on a future episode: https://www.inclusion1stproject.org/ask-a-ques…
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EP 43: Leadership Sets The Tone: Inclusion & Diversity Within Companies with Neal Bloom
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Neal Bloom who describes himself as a serial entrepreneur and investor. Neal is the CEO of Rising Tide Partners, Co-Founder and Managing Director of Interlock Capital, and Chair Emeritus at Startup San Diego. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activi…
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EP 42: How do I talk about racism without pushing it on people? | Community Question
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: How do I talk about my struggles with racism without feeling like I’m forcing it down other people’s throats? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here to be featured on a future episode: https://…
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EP 41: Anti-racism & disability with Rachel Schlesinger
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Rachel Schlesinger, a lifelong disability advocate, who is committed to ensuring disability is included in diversity and equity initiatives in education, legislation, and non-profit sectors. Rachel lectures at San Diego State University and teaches social sexual education to individuals with developmental disab…
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A Message From Carrie On 2021 & Allyship In 2022
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In this episode, you'll hear a special message from Carrie on allyship and her thoughts on 2021. Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here to be featured on a future episode: https://www.inclusion1stproject.org/ask-a-question Ready to dive in further? Check out al…
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EP 39: How to deal with racist micro-aggressions | Community Question with Julius Alejandro
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: What are some good tips for a person who is dealing with people who use racist micro-aggressions against them? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here to be featured on a future episode: https:/…
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EP 38: Founding Village Up, the journey of launching a think tank, and diversity in start-ups with Julius Alejandro
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Julius Alejandro, Founder and Project Director of Village Up, a collaborative initiative to increase diversity and access to the San Diego startup tech ecosystem. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in 2021. In this episode, we answer questio…
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EP 37: Are black people responsible for answering questions about racism? | Community Question with Kaseba Chibweth
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: I keep hearing that it’s not a black person’s job to answer questions people may have about racism. When did asking questions, in the vain of learning and not being ignorant, become racist? And why does anyone feel above answering racial questions? When did this become a “do your o…
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EP 36: Navigating privilege, interrupting racism around you, and anti-racism work in college with Kaseba Chibweth
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In today’s student edition interview, we are talking to Kaseba Chibweth, a student at Loyola University in Chicago majoring in criminology and criminal justice. Kaseba has a love for public speaking and advocating for those whose voices are not heard. She is passionate about juvenile justice reform and aspires to be an attorney who will change the …
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EP 35: What is the best way to learn about anti-racism? | Community Question with H. Puentes
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: Is learning with books or action better when it comes to anti-racism? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here to be featured on a future episode: https://www.inclusion1stproject.org/ask-a-questi…
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EP 34: Johanna Robinson: Diversity in entrepreneurship and building a business with purpose
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Johanna Robinson the Co-Founder and COO of Fōkcus Mentoring, a mentoring platform for innovation programs and entrepreneurship. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in 2021. In this episode, we answer questions like: >What needs do minority en…
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EP 33: Is learning with books or action better when it comes to anti-racism? | Community Question with Yinka Agaba
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: Is learning with books or action better when it comes to anti-racism? Do you have a question that you want to be answered on a future episode of The Inclusion 1st Podcast? Submit your question here to be featured on a future episode: https://www.inclusion1stproject.org/ask-a-questi…
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EP 32: Diversity in STEM and closing the pay gap with H. Puentes
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In today’s episode, we are talking to H. Puentes, who has worked at Connect San Diego to bridge the diversity gap in tech, and currently at SD2 which bridges the diversity gap in STEM careers through programming, mentorship, and scholarship. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in…
In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: I’m reading fantasy books with elves who are white, tall, and fair-skinned, and orcs who are muscular, short, and dark. Is this an expression of racism? Is it a symptom of an arbitrary value scale of being good or bad? I just realized how ingrained, far-reaching, and subtle. Do you…
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EP 30: Patricia Cosulich: Learning to listen, seeking out diversity in your community, and building self-awareness
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In today’s episode, we are talking to Patricia Cosulich who is a social innovator, playwright, and advocate who uses interdisciplinary approaches to tackle complex problems in our communities. Come join us for this real, authentic, and honest conversation about what it looks like to be an activist in 2021. In this episode, we answer questions like:…
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In this episode, we are answering the listener-submitted questions: I come from Europe, I lived in California and Pennsylvania, and in the U.S. for 10 years. I wondered whether having moved back to Europe put me in a more or less racist context and culture. What is wrong with this line of thinking? Is there a less racist place on Earth? Or is it pe…