De Verbranders is een podcast over Europa's grenzen en verzet ertegen. We gaan in gesprek met migranten, activisten en wetenschappers over de koloniale oorsprong van grenzen en de ongelijkheid die grenzen vandaag de dag produceren. Illustraties door B. Carrot, o.a. uit Alle Dagen Ui, uitgegeven door Soul Food Comics. Voor meer B. Carrot zie www.instagram.com/bcarrotdraws/ en www.bcarrot.nl Grafische vormgeving door Thomas van Dark Roast (https://www.instagram.com/thomas.darkroast/) Themamuzi ...
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Ep 28: Border imperialism in the Balkans. With Manja Petrovska (English).
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Our guest is Manja Petrovska, a PhD candidate at the University of Amsterdam and the Université libre de Bruxelles. We start our conversation today in the Balkans. Before her PhD, Manja spent five years supporting people travelling through the Balkans to Europe’s more affluent northwest, including at the Macedonian-Greek border and in Bosnia. Witne…
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Ep 27: Hydra rising. With Marcus Rediker & Nandita Sharma (English).
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Today, we have two guests: Marcus Rediker, a distinguished Professor of Atlantic History at the University of Pittsburg, and Nandita Sharma, a professor of Sociology at the University of Hawaii. Marcus Rediker has spent a lifetime studying oceans rather than lands, immersing himself in the worlds of sailors, pirates, and the enslaved. As he explain…
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Ep 26: Abandoned seafarers. With Miriam Matthiessen (English).
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In this episode, we speak to Miriam Matthiessen, who takes us to the world of shipping, through the phenomenon of so-called Abandoned Seafarers. As it happens, because of the way in which the shipping industry is organized, ship owners sometimes have an incentive to abandon their ships, and the crew on it. Formally, a ship and its crew are consider…
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Ep 25: Palestine. With Ghassan Hage (English).
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Our guest today is Ghassan Hage, a professor of anthropology at the University of Melbourne in Australia.Today, we talk with Ghassan, not about Europe’s borders, but about Palestine, and the intensification of the destruction of life in Gaza at the hands of the Israeli state and the powers that support it.We recorded our conversation a few weeks ag…
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Ep 24: Why no borders. With Bridget Anderson, Cynthia Wright, and Nandita Sharma (English).
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Our guests in this episode are Bridget Anderson, Cynthia Wright, and Nandita Sharma. We speak to them about their editorial called “Why no Borders”, which they published in 2008. In it, they distill the scholarship on borders at the time, in order to draw the conclusion that we should get rid of borders. Taking the editorial as our starting point, …
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Ep 23: Amsterdam's most undocumented famous person. With activist Hidaya Nampiima (English).
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Our guest today is Hidaya Nampiima, co-founder and spokesperson of Amsterdam City Rights, an organisation of people living in Amsterdam with and without the right papers.What is Amsterdam like if you don’t have a BSN number? When you are shut out from healthcare, schooling, housing, education, legal work, and political participation? Hidaya talks a…
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Afl 22: De gecreëerde crisis in Ter Apel. Met Roos Ykema van MiGreat (Nederlands).
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In de aflevering vandaag spreken we met Roos Ykema, van MiGreat. MiGreat werd vorig jaar bekend door de hulp die ze boden in ter Apel, toen honderden mensen noodgedwongen op het veld voor het aanmeldcentrum voor asielzoekers moesten slapen. Daar zag Roos hoe op allerlei manieren en door allerlei beslissingen een crisis werd gecreëerd, en hoe vervol…
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Ep 21: Border abolition & black feminism. With Gracie Mae Bradley (English).
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In this episode of de Verbranders, we talk to Gracie Mae Bradley about a book she co-wrote with Luke de Noronha, called “Against Borders: The Case for Abolition”. In it, they draw inspiration from prison abolitionism and the black feminist politics that shape it, and they bring that body of thought and practice to the work of organising against bor…
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Ep 20: Deporting Black Britons. With Luke de Noronha (English).
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In our conversation today, we talk to Luke de Noronha about his book Deporting Black Britons: Portraits of deportation to Jamaica. Meant as a contribution to the collective struggle against racism and deportation, the book tells the life stories of four men who grew up in the UK, were deported to Jamaica following criminal conviction, and now strug…
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Ep 19: Humanitarian borders. With Polly Pallister-Wilkins (English).
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Our guest today is Polly Pallister-Wilkins. We talk to Polly about humanitarian borderwork. Polly came up with this term to point to the complicated relationship between violent mobility injustice and the life-saving rescue efforts that occur in response. What does it mean when humanitarianism is the main response to death and suffering at the bord…
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Ep 18: No Borders & A decolonization worth fighting for. With Nandita Sharma (English).
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Our guest today is Nandita Sharma. Nandita is a professor of sociology at the University of Hawaii and an active member of several social movements, including the No Borders movement and movements struggling for the planetary commons. In our conversation today, we talk about Nandita's recent book Home Rule: National sovereignty and the separation o…
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Afl 17: Activisme in de gemeenteraad. Met Jazie Veldhuyzen (Nederlands).
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Jazie is activist en strijd sinds 2020 als fractievoorzitter van BIJ1 in de gemeenteraad in Amsterdam, onder andere tegen het algemene ontmoedigingsbeleid dat er op gericht is om het voor niet-rijke en geracialiseerde mensen uit voormalige koloniën zo moeilijk mogelijk te maken om naar Nederland te komen en hier een leven op te bouwen. Dat ontmoedi…
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Ep 16: We are still here. With Sami Tsegaye (English).
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We talk to Sami about illegalization in the Netherlands, and about the Landelijk Vreemdelingen Voorziening, a temporary shelter that offers no solutions, because people are being deported against their will, or, if they cannot be deported, end up on the street again. At the moment, politicians are debating whether or not the LVV should continue unt…
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Ep 15: Nationalism, sexism, border guards. With Maryla Klajn (English).
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We talk to Maryla about her research on how Polish border guards use their discretionary power, or the wiggle room they have as they implement the law. Maryla worked with polish border guards for half a year, first at one of the regional headquarters and then at three different outposts, where she went on ride-alongs to see for herself how border g…
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Afl 14: Grenzen, kraken, solidariteit. Met Joyce & Sinne - deel 2 (Nederlands).
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Dit is deel 2 van ons gesprek met Joyce en Sinne. Joyce en Sinne zetten zich al jaren actief in als supporters van Wij Zijn Hier, een groep mensen die sinds 2012 door Amsterdam trekt om collectief te protesteren tegen het Nederlandse vreemdelingenbeleid. Mocht je nog niet hebben geluisterd naar de eerste aflevering dan raden we je aan dat te doen!I…
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Afl 13: Grenzen, kraken, solidariteit. Met Joyce & Sinne - deel 1 (Nederlands).
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In de aflevering vandaag spreken we met Joyce en Sinne. Joyce en Sinne zetten zich al jaren actief in als supporters van Wij Zijn Hier, een groep mensen die sinds 2012 door Amsterdam trekt om collectief te protesteren tegen het Nederlandse vreemdelingenbeleid. Dit is deel 1 van ons gesprek. Vanaf volgende week kun je luisteren naar deel 2.We spreke…
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Ep 12: Deportation, racism, departheid. With Barak Kalir (English).
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This is our second episode with Barak Kalir. In this episode, we talk about Barak's research into deportation in Spain. We talk about the organizational culture of the Spanish police and their focus on deporting what they refer to as "foreign criminals." We talk about the so-called tragedy of Tarajal, and why we should really refer to this event as…
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Ep 11: Counter-mapping pushbacks. With Rosa from Alarm Phone (English).
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Our guest today is Rosa from the Alarm Phone. We talk to Rosa about the situation at the Turkish – Greek border. In the past few years, Greek authorities have increasingly pushed back people on the move, using more and more violence. This is happening both at sea, where the Greek coast guard forces people back into Turkish waters, and on the land b…
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Ep 10: Coordinated death in the Mediterranean Sea. With Deanna & Hela from Alarm Phone (English).
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In this episode, we talk to Deanna & Hela (Alarm Phone) about the current situation in the Central Mediterranean Sea, and the work Alarm Phone does in that context. Deanna & Hela explain how European coordination is increasingly directed, not at rescuing people, but at preventing people from being rescued and being brought to Europe, resulting in d…
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Ep 9: A colonial history of the passport. With Radhika Mongia (English).
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Nowadays, states have a monopoly to control migration. And because this is the case, we tend to think of this monopoly as a natural and defining element of state sovereignty, as something that has been around for as long as states have existed. Radhika argues that this is not the case. State control over migration is only a recent aspect of the sta…
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Afl 8: Gender, seksualiteit, grenzen. Met Saskia Bonjour (Nederlands).
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Over de grenzen tussen “wij” en “zij” die door het tegen elkaar afzetten van gender- en seksualiteitsnormen gecreëerd werden. Saskia vertelt hoe die grens in de Nederlandse koloniën en tijdens de dekolonisatie tastbaar werd gemaakt via het personen- en familierecht, dat bepaalde wie er wel en niet Nederlander was en hoe je Nederlander kon worden en…
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Afl 7: Hoe Nederland van Seawatch afkwam. Met Anne van Seawatch (Nederlands).
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Over de reeks van obstakels die Nederland opwierp om er voor te zorgen dat Seawatch niet meer onder Nederlandse vlag zou varen, in de context van een op Europees niveau gecoördineerde strategie om zeenoodredding door ngo's en activisten zo moeilijk mogelijk te maken.Muziek: Heading on back to the the hills van The Bucket Boyz. Voor meer, zie https:…
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Ep 6: Inside immigration detention. With Saied Al Karim (English).
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Saied Al Karim arrived to Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam in 2016, applied for asylum, was rejected, and subsequently moved to an immigration detention center. He was kept there for fourteen months, after which he was put on the street because he was deemed 'undeportable'. Many months later, he was granted asylum. In this episode, he shares his insig…
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Ep 5: Deportation and the banality of evil. With Barak Kalir (English).
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On the Dutch deportation regime and the violence and racism on which it builds. And on what people working for the deportation agency do to mitigate the feeling of contributing to the violence and racism. Music by Kostas Bezoslllustrations by B. Carrot, i.a. from Alle Dagen Ui, published by Soul Food Comics. For more of B. Carrot see www.instagram.…
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Afl 4: Migratierecht, kolonialisme, 'ras'. Met Thomas Spijkerboer (Nederlands).
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Over de koloniale geschiedenis van migratie en migratierecht, en hoe die geschiedenis doorwerkt in het Europese grenssysteem van vandaag de dag: een systeem dat zo gebouwd is dat mensen met een Europees paspoort goedkoop, eenvoudig, en snel de wereld over kunnen reizen terwijl anderen, vooral niet-rijke en geracialiseerde mensen uit voormalig gekol…
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Ep 3: Solidarity is not a crime. With Sascha from the Iuventa crew (English).
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In March 2021, the Italian prosecutor officially charged Sascha and others from the Iuventa Crew with “aiding and abetting illegal immigration.” They now risk up to 20 years in prison. In this episode Sascha talks to us about his political background and beliefs, the daily reality of search and rescue operations in the Mediterranean, and the halluc…
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Ep 2: No one is illegal. With Maryama Omar from We Are Here (English).
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On migrant illegalization, exploitation in the name of help, racism, and solidarity.After years of fighting, Maryama was granted asylum, but, as she explains in this episode, too many of the people of We Are Here are still having to fight to survive. On Saturday October 23rd, we will join them to protest against temporary solutions and for permanen…
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Afl 1: Grenzen, ecologie, kolonialisme. Met Amade M'charek (Nederlands).
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Over hoe Europa's grenzen dood produceren en hoe dat nooit los kan worden gezien van de mogelijkheden die mensen hebben tot leven.Voor meer van Amade M'charek en kunstenaar Mohsen Lihidheb, zie de Zembla aflevering "Dromen van een begraafplaats": https://www.bnnvara.nl/zembla/artikelen/dromen-van-een-begraafplaatsllustraties door B. Carrot, o.a. ui…
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In De Verbranders gaan we in gesprek met migranten, activisten en wetenschappers over de koloniale oorsprong van Europa's grenzen, de ongelijkheid die grenzen vandaag de dag produceren en verzet tegen Europa's grensbeleid. Hier alvast een voorproefje.Zee en zang uit de film Asmat van Dagmawi Yimer (https://vimeo.com/114849871)Themamuziek door David…
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